- Oppo sales
I am an oppo seller. My boss told every employee to participate in this vote. I don’t agree with that, it doesn’t make sense. Yes, I hate my job.
Apple iPhone 13 mini
131.5 x 64.2 x 7.7 mm
Weight: 141 g
Oppo Find N
Folded: 132.6 x 73 x 15.9 mm
Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3
Folded: 158.2 x 67.1 x 14.4-16mm
Weight: 271 g
Huawei mate x2
Folded: 161.8 x 74.6 x 14.7 mm
Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold
Folded: 173.3 x 69.8 x 17.2 mm
Weight: 317 g (glass) / 333 g (ceramic)
Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3
Unfolded: 166 x 72.2 x 6.9 mm
Folded: 86.4 x 72.2 x 15.9-17.1 mm
Motorola Razr 5G
Unfolded: 169.2 x 72.6 x 7.9 mm
Folded: 91.7 x 72.6 x 16 mm
Microsoft Surface Duo
Unfolded: 186.9 x 145.2 x 4.8 mm
Folded: 145.2 x 93.3 x 9.9 mm
Microsoft Surface Duo 2
Unfolded: 184.5 x 145.2 x 5.5 mm
Folded: 145.2 x 92.1 x 11 mm
Will not include the Huawei Mate X / XS as this form factor is most susceptible to damage and the prices for them are outrageous.
Among the foldables
Shortest: Flip 3 if folded, Find N if unfolded
The narrowest: Razr 2019 (72 mm), Flip 3 is the 2nd
The lightest: Flip 3
The biggest: Mi Mix Fold
The widest: Mate X2
The heaviest: Mi Mix Fold with ceramic
I have the two most compact and lightest foldables. The Razr 5G is the cheapest you can buy right now because you should avoid the 4G one. I’m actually happy with what I already have, but Find N made me curious. Duos really don’t count as collapsible and just too wide even when closed.
I think the Find N has the best dimensions for a collapsible book, my only qualms being its weight and thickness. If it could be 230g and be a few millimeters thinner when closed, that would be almost perfect for me. But it’s as heavy as the PSP and Vita phats, which can get annoying if held for an extended period of time.
OldVillainousHeavens, 11 hours agoCannot compare to the likes of Samsung. (Yes, I got paid a big sum to say that)MDR
IpsDisplay, 11 hours agoFrom a functional point of view, it is the most polished The mate X IS SECOND and Samsung … moreI don’t agree with you that the mate x is the second and Samsung is the last because the mate x is the strangest of all because it bends in the opposite direction which a lot of people didn’t like. not, and the mate x2 is better than the mate x because they fixed this problem, but I agree with everything else.
Tanji, 11 hours agoTechnology made with Samsung technology inside. Then slap an oppo software that would have bad software … moreYou’re absolutely right
dbjungle, 8 hours agoMy answer is, is it still using Color OS?Yes
They did well, but I prefer the foldable clamshell
cozxta, 8 hours agoThis is how it works, Samsung is a hardware manufacturer, they make custom hardware … moreRead the other answers. There are a lot of reasons for the crease. This Oppo looks good on paper, Samsung phones are in their third generation with millions sold. They obviously prioritize the longevity of the device rather than the practical exams.
Samsung is not stupid. Of course, they also tried the Waterdrop hinge. But there are at least two main reasons Samsung didn’t go with the Waterdrop hinge.
The first is the IPX8 index. The best way to understand the difficulty with the teardrop hinge is to look at the Razer’s hinge / crease area. In the case of the Fold 3, you have 2 individual phones with no moving parts (which could be sealed like any regular slab phone) and a relatively small area with a movable screen. I think Samsung shocked the competition with IPX8 and I would expect Huawei, Xiaomi, and Oppo to go for the same type of hinge / fold if they consider going for IPX8. A missing IPX8 rating is simply forbidden for such an expensive phone.
The second is the S Pen. Unlike the UTG which is collapsible, the digitizer is not. Samsung created a digitizer that consists of 2 separate non-foldable digitizers and algorithms to calculate the position of the S Pen in the fold area without the digitizer. Achieving this with the teardrop hinge with a relatively large crease area would probably have been extremely difficult.
Many classic sitcoms that I could watch on the Spectrum TV app or Pluto TV and many classic video games up to the 6th gen had the classic 4: 3 aspect ratio. Since this Find N is almost a rounded square when opened, it’s perfect for classic 1980s and 1990s shows and video games.
Then, if you want to watch more content with a wide screen ratio, outdoor viewing or putting it in Flex is perfect for that. The Fold series now looks silly with its super narrow exterior display and when looking at things in Flex mode. Find N is far better for media consumption.
Oppo would win the hearts of the Western public if it could bring it here and the price tag at just $ 999. This would destroy sales of the Fold 3 and Flip 3 and Oppo would be the 3rd most popular OEM in the United States in a few years. America needs a third wheel and Oppo does. Not Google since the Pixel 6/6 Pro isn’t really new.
joe nods, 8 hours agoNot with that unnecessary hole in the inner screen. What solution could you have proposed to balance the pricing and technological constraints? And is the hole really invasive? Because I don’t think so.
Anonymous, 10 hours agoThe screen size is too small for me. All those complicated moving parts, extra weight and no … moreDo you understand the proportions?
It’s just too small for me, but for people with small hands it might be ok.
Good first try and it could happen in the west with the Oneplus brand.
I am waiting for what Honor and Xiaomi will launch.
My answer is, is it still using Color OS?
Not with that unnecessary hole in the inner screen.
Seems to be a very good foldable, but only for china. If I had to get a foldable it would be a clamshell fold though.
The biggest issue for me with the Oppo Find N hardware is its weight. It’s 275g while the Fold 3 is 271g. I had the phat (Wi-Fi only) and slim PS Vita. The slim weight in less than 41g makes a huge difference. I sold the phat because my slim had better battery life, a normal charge standard, and much more comfortable to hold during long gaming sessions.
I can tolerate the thickness of the Find N as my shells are as thick as when folded. But they also weigh almost 100g less than him. Maybe it’s just something I’ll get used to. It took me a while to get used to the fold and thickness of the Flip 3. Now it’s just second nature. Find N is really not a necessity for me. Just have something different to have. Have both a flapper and a collapsible book.
Tanji, 11 hours agoTechnology made with Samsung technology inside. Then slap an oppo software that would have bad software … moreThis is how it works, Samsung is a computer hardware maker, they make custom hardware under contract for various companies, even Samsung uses source screens on smartphones from BOE and TCL / Sharp / LG panels on their televisions.
Do you know what’s weird? Samsung makes the screen, and they can’t do better with the crease on the inner screen.
“The biggest flaw is that at the moment Oppo does not appear to have any intention of selling the Find N outside of China. The model has proven to be very popular in the country as it quickly grew. sold and people are asking for more than MSRP in the resale market. “
It’s correct. The first thing I thought about was that this won’t be available outside of China 🇨🇳 and that dampened my interest in it. Then I knew scalpers / dealers would profit from the price hike like their Air Jordans and PlayStation 5.
Ben Sin also mentioned that he still thinks Samsung’s software is more polished, which I agree. I am never sure with Chinese software like ColorOS. Samsung is already in its 3rd generation with the Fold and has refined its software for years on foldables.
The Oppo N video of Ben Sin
Still, I would still prefer to get the Find N instead of the Fold 3. The Find N is 25 millimeters shorter than the Fold 3, which is a big difference. Only iPhone 13 mini height. When in Flex, Fold 3 offers each half being way too narrow while the Find N is nearly perfect as if it were a foldable Duo.
Next to each other, Fold 3 looks awkward with its hardware. Much too high and much too narrow. The exterior display is now a joke compared to the Find N. Oppo has definitely beaten Samsung when it comes to hardware here. This is the Foldable Duo in an iPhone mini height that I have always wanted.
I wonder if Michael Fisher changes his mind and starts using Find N on his Fold 3? I know he’s not crazy about Oppo’s software and cameras. No DEX support either. But I know Mike likes a more compact size too. Some Fold 3 owners might make the switch.
For my personal taste which aims to carry as little as possible with gadgets, Find N is the current GOAT in book form. Now the biggest hurdle is getting one from China and for retail sale.
I’m one of the 9% who prefer clamshell foldables.
For my personal taste
1.Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3
2. Motorola Razr 5G
3. Oppo Find N
4.Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3
Even though it’s not a foldable display, I could have the Surface Duo 2 on the Fold 3. It’s quite unique as an LG Wing that I would put on the Fold 3 as well.
For the book form factor, Oppo nailed it down by keeping it short like an iPhone 13 mini, a larger outer screen, and a less noticeable crease. Find N is on my wishlist. It will be difficult to try to get one, as the scalpers take advantage and increase the price to the same level as the Fold 3.
For me, my Flip 3 trumps my Razr 5G even though the Razr actually looks better with a much better cover display. Flip 3 wins thanks to Flex, Snapdragon 888, better cameras, wireless charging, and other more modern specs that the Razr and its Snap765G lack.